Arrested for Assault: Does Witness Description Count?

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Arrested for Assault: Does Witness Description Count?
L.D asks

I was arrested for assault but the witness described me to look totally different and so did the person that I was to have attacked. I had a video identity parade (Viper) taken and was picked out by the person that was attacked. While outside of the establishment where it took place the attacked man told the door ladies that I had done nothing wrong because I was not wearing all black. The door ladies ignored this and I was still arrested.

In the statement that was given from the person attacked the description didn't fit me at all. Do the police have to ask the person making the accusations what the attacker looked like? Please advise of what can be done about any of this?

When police are called to deal with an incident, such as an allegation of assault, they will speak to the complainant and other people at the scene who will assist them in determining what happened and who – if anyone - is likely to have committed a crime. They don’t just take descriptions and information from the person who has been attacked, but ask numerous people. (If the victim had been unconscious, for example, the police would only have other eyewitnesses they could ask.) From the information that you have provided it sounds to me as though a man was attacked outside a venue, but that he then told the ladies on the door that it couldn’t be you because you weren’t wearing all black.

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However, the ladies who were working on the door then told the police that you were the person who attacked the man, which is why you were arrested. You do not say whether or not you have been charged with an offence, or whether you have been bailed by the police pending further enquiries.

The Strength of the Identification Evidence

The fact that the victim picked you out in an ID parade could be compelling evidence in court that you were the person who attacked him. However, there are numerous other factors to take into consideration here which you, or your lawyer, could argue in court: firstly, the written description he gave to police wasn’t anything like you (although this could be explained by the fact that he’d just been attacked and was confused and in shock.) Secondly, the victim said you weren’t the attacker while he was still at the scene because you weren’t wearing all black. Thirdly, he could have picked you out as someone he recognised from the night of the attack but in his confusion he’s put the wrong face to the person who attacked him.

Perhaps the most problematic part of your case is that the door ladies who were purely bystanders (i.e. people who weren’t involved) pointed you out as the attacker at the scene. If they have given witness statements to the police that confirm this, their accounts are likely to be quite persuasive evidence when presented in court.

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Cases Involving Identification Evidence

Although great care must be taken in a case in which identification evidence is the main part, or a very persuasive part of the prosecution’s case, it is inevitable that people make mistakes. This is why judges have to give juries warnings (called ‘directions’) when they are summing up cases.

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Dan 04/09/2020 at 6:21 pm
I have been asked to a police viper. the victim knows me as i have purchased drugs from them on a previous occasion. It stands to reason they will surely pick me out. Is this allowed?
sparky 12/03/2020 at 2:00 pm
I went to who I thought was a friend once to have a word with him he lost his temper and shut the door on me.Later that night police came to my house and arrested me for assault and I got put in the police cells for a night. I didn't touch him and was innocent of assault.I ended up having a breakdown in the cell and ended up in a mental hospital for 2 weeks.
Linnie 25/11/2019 at 2:09 pm
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Lolo 04/01/2017 at 12:53 pm
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Embod 01/11/2016 at 7:13 am
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smit 29/10/2016 at 5:18 am
i was punched in the face and locked in his house , I really broke down when o give evidence , I felt like I'd done the crime, I came straight home after I giv evidence, then I hear he was found not guilty??? I reported it the day after cuz it hit that bad o cudnt open my eye do police arrested him , charged him with assault by beating , went to trial and got not guilty , there was pics which the police took wat Wer absolute crap to the ones I ad , feel like he's the victim in suffering in not happy with how it's been dealt with, please help
Ben7890 02/09/2016 at 12:43 pm
@SamSmith - it rests on what the police investigation throws up. The person who was setting up the deal isn't really the person to be believed. But these things happen and he may have just called at a bad time. If the police can link your b/f to other evidence they will try, but if they can't find any they will fail.
Dianebowers 28/06/2016 at 2:51 pm
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eh 13/05/2016 at 12:18 pm
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Sam smith 26/04/2016 at 11:17 pm
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Star 03/04/2016 at 5:12 pm
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Lol 06/02/2016 at 9:53 pm
Hi
I have bee accused of harassment but I was never there
The tenant gave a different name ,not mine and also said I was going to beat her husband up
Also there was a text that said pay up is this harassment
This happened in 2014
The council say that they are thinking of prosecuting but are waiting from thier solicitor
Do they have a time limit to prosecute
CourtroomAdvice Editor 04/02/2016 at 11:43 am
Yes, since 2011 offenders who have been bailed by police will receive formal notices in the mail ordering them to court.
Gotrex 03/02/2016 at 2:00 pm
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Dorriganates 09/01/2016 at 10:54 am
Hi i have been falsely accused of assault by my ex & i have been charged with common assault but in her statement the date she claims it happened is wrong & i have got evidence which proofs that. I only realized that the date she gave was wrong when i was being charged so i said to the charging officer & the sergeant that the date is wrong we didn't have the argument on that date so the sergeant put on my charging form that it didn't happen on that date that date is wrong will this make any difference to my case. Thank You
CourtroomAdvice Editor 21/10/2015 at 2:02 pm
For obvious reasons we cannot offer guidance on how you should plead, you would need to seek some legal advice.
Dowley 20/10/2015 at 4:08 pm
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Mac 23/04/2015 at 6:58 pm
If you push someone and they react and punch you in the face, can that be seen as assault for the person who has pushed them?
Ella Editor 17/04/2015 at 1:52 pm
@Gullible Landlord - I don't think anyone ever did much damage with a cheese knife. It's like trying to attack someone with a table spoon. I know you are scared and this must have been very traumatic for you. But, I shouldn't worry too much. I hope your lodger has now gone!
JJ 05/02/2015 at 6:02 pm
Hello, hope you can help, Ive been charged with two counts of common assault against youths who had been throwing eggs at my house. is this likely to reach court? I live in Scotland
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